Eva Rosine Wiese1

F, b. 1 July 1837
Eva Rosine Wiese|b. 1 Jul 1837|p72.htm#i2137|Johann Wiese|b. c 1809|p69.htm#i2056|Rosa Redmann|b. c 1806\nd. 12 Jan 1864|p69.htm#i2055|||||||David Redmann|b. c 1781|p78.htm#i2324||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Eva Rosine Wiese was born on 1 July 1837 at Lubierszin, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1,2 She was the daughter of Johann Wiese and Rosa Redmann.1 Eva Rosine Wiese was baptized on 16 July 1837 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #92, Eva Rosine Wiese.
  2. [S245] Remus, Bill, online www.cba.hawaii.edu/remus/genes/wprussia.

Adam Jacob Wiese1

M, b. 25 July 1837
Adam Jacob Wiese|b. 25 Jul 1837|p72.htm#i2138|Christian Wiese|b. c 1804\nd. a 4 Aug 1881|p71.htm#i2110|Catharina Dobberstein|b. c 1810\nd. 4 Aug 1881|p71.htm#i2111|Friedrich Wiese|b. c 1779|p78.htm#i2322||||Adam Dobberstein|b. c 1785|p78.htm#i2323||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Adam Jacob Wiese was born on 25 July 1837 at Sicinny, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Christian Wiese and Catharina Dobberstein.1 Adam Jacob Wiese was baptized on 30 July 1837 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #101, Adam Jacob Wiese.

Gottlieb Slarrmann Neubauer1

M, b. 21 July 1837
Gottlieb Slarrmann Neubauer|b. 21 Jul 1837|p72.htm#i2139|Fridrich Neubauer|b. c 1798\nd. 26 Sep 1866|p69.htm#i2060|Elizabeth Wiese|b. c 1804|p69.htm#i2059|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Gottlieb Slarrmann Neubauer was born on 21 July 1837 at Koslinka, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Fridrich Neubauer and Elizabeth Wiese.1 Gottlieb Slarrmann Neubauer was baptized on 30 July 1837 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.2

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #103, Gottlieb Slarrmann? Neubauer.
  2. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #103, Gottlieb Slarrmann Neubauer.

Regina Neubauer1

F

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #103, Gottlieb Slarrmann Neubauer.

Paul Modelmag1

M, b. 29 August 1837
Paul Modelmag|b. 29 Aug 1837|p72.htm#i2141|George Modelmag|b. c 1807|p70.htm#i2094|Eva Rosine Wiese|b. c 1807|p70.htm#i2093|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Paul Modelmag was born on 29 August 1837 at Stobno, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of George Modelmag and Eva Rosine Wiese.1 Paul Modelmag was baptized on 3 September 1837 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #120, Paul Modelmag.

Eva Eleanore Wiese1

F, b. 6 December 1837
Eva Eleanore Wiese|b. 6 Dec 1837|p72.htm#i2142|Friedrich Wiese|b. c 1815|p69.htm#i2062|Elisabeth Schaffler?|b. c 1815|p69.htm#i2063|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Eva Eleanore Wiese was born on 6 December 1837 at Kensau, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 She was the daughter of Friedrich Wiese and Elisabeth Schaffler?.1 Eva Eleanore Wiese was baptized on 10 December 1837 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #159, Eva Eleanore Wiese.

Eva Ristau1

F

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1837 #159, Eva Eleanore Wiese.

Eva Rosine Wiese1

F, b. circa 1813
     Her married name was Konisch?. Eva Rosine Wiese was born circa 1813.2 She married Franz Konisch? circa 1833.2,1

Child of Eva Rosine Wiese and Franz Konisch?

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1838 #87, August Feiedrick Konisch?.
  2. [S1] Unknown author, "Assumption," e-mail to unknown recipient.

Franz Konisch?1

M, b. circa 1813
     Franz Konisch? was born circa 1813.2 He married Eva Rosine Wiese circa 1833.2,1

Child of Franz Konisch? and Eva Rosine Wiese

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1838 #87, August Feiedrick Konisch?.
  2. [S1] Unknown author, "Assumption," e-mail to unknown recipient.

August Friedrick Konisch?1

M, b. 10 August 1838
August Friedrick Konisch?|b. 10 Aug 1838|p72.htm#i2146|Franz Konisch?|b. c 1813|p72.htm#i2145|Eva Rosine Wiese|b. c 1813|p72.htm#i2144|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. August Friedrick Konisch? was born on 10 August 1838 at Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia; (cannot read name of town).1 He was the son of Franz Konisch? and Eva Rosine Wiese.1 August Friedrick Konisch? was baptized on 26 August 1838 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1838 #87, August Feiedrick Konisch?.

Franz Wilhelm Redmann1

M, b. 7 September 1838
Franz Wilhelm Redmann|b. 7 Sep 1838|p72.htm#i2147|Johann Redmann|b. c 1814|p69.htm#i2049|Caroline Wiese|b. c 1814|p69.htm#i2050|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Franz Wilhelm Redmann was born on 7 September 1838 at Grochomo, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Johann Redmann and Caroline Wiese.1 Franz Wilhelm Redmann was baptized on 9 September 1838 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1838 #99, Franz Wilhelm Redmann.

Paul Wiese1

M

Children of Paul Wiese and Heinriette Eggert

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1838 #99, Franz Wilhelm Redmann.
  2. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1848 #114, Caroline Johanne Wiese.
  3. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1851 #17, Anna Rosa Wiese.

Wilhelmine Caroline Wiese1

F, b. 1 October 1839
Wilhelmine Caroline Wiese|b. 1 Oct 1839|p72.htm#i2149|Michael Wiese|b. c 1803\nd. b Aug 1872|p37.htm#i1092|Maria Pobanz|b. c 1813\nd. 12 Jul 1880|p36.htm#i1079|||||||Jacob Pobanz|b. c 1786|p78.htm#i2319||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Wilhelmine Caroline Wiese was born on 1 October 1839 at Festnitz, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 She was the daughter of Michael Wiese and Maria Pobanz.1 Wilhelmine Caroline Wiese was baptized on 13 October 1839 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1839 #126, Wilhelmine Caroline Wiese.

Friedrich Wilhelm Pobanz1

M, b. 20 January 1838
Friedrich Wilhelm Pobanz|b. 20 Jan 1838|p72.htm#i2150|Johann Pobanz|b. c 1811\nd. 8 Mar 1874|p69.htm#i2074|Caroline Hinz|b. c 1809\nd. 4 Feb 1883|p69.htm#i2075|Jacob Pobanz|b. c 1786|p78.htm#i2319||||Johann Hintz|b. c 1784|p78.htm#i2320||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Friedrich Wilhelm Pobanz was born on 20 January 1838 at Kensau, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was baptized on 21 January 1838 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Johann Pobanz and Caroline Hinz.1 Friedrich Wilhelm Pobanz married Caroline Lüdtke? circa 1856.2

Children of Friedrich Wilhelm Pobanz and Caroline Lüdtke?

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1838 #7, Friedrich Wilhelm Pobanz.
  2. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, p50, Anna Pubanz.
  3. [S118] Bapt 1858-1873; Evang, Tuchel WP, Auguste Ernstine Pobanz.
  4. [S118] Bapt 1858-1873; Evang, Tuchel WP, Wilhelm August Julius Pubanz.
  5. [S119] Bapt 1874-1910; Evang, Tuchel WP, p50, Anna Pubanz.

Catharine Pobanz1

F

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1838 #7, Friedrich Wilhelm Pobanz.

Peter Wiese1

M, b. circa 1816
     Peter Wiese was born circa 1816.2 He married Caroline Warmbier, daughter of Andreas Warmbier and Anna Lange, circa 1836.1,2

Children of Peter Wiese and Caroline Warmbier

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1841 #39, Carl Friedrich Wiese.
  2. [S1] Unknown author, "Assumption," e-mail to unknown recipient.
  3. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1843 #55, Michael August Wiese.
  4. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1844 #161, Wilhelmine Albertine Wiese.
  5. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1848 #34, Johann Friedrich Wiese.
  6. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1850 #41, August Gottlieb Wiese.
  7. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1853 #12, Wilhelm Gottlieb Wiese.
  8. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1855 #143, Emilie Auguste Wiese.
  9. [S118] Bapt 1858-1873; Evang, Tuchel WP, Auguste Caroline Albertine Wiese.

Caroline Warmbier1

F, b. 10 November 1817
Caroline Warmbier|b. 10 Nov 1817|p72.htm#i2153|Andreas Warmbier||p148.htm#i4456|Anna Lange||p149.htm#i4457|||||||||||||
     Her married name was Wiese. Caroline Warmbier was born on 10 November 1817.2 She was the daughter of Andreas Warmbier and Anna Lange.2 Caroline Warmbier married Peter Wiese circa 1836.1,3

Children of Caroline Warmbier and Peter Wiese

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1841 #39, Carl Friedrich Wiese.
  2. [S261] Unknown author, "Warmbier, Ron," e-mail to unknown recipient, 5 Jun 2004.
  3. [S1] Unknown author, "Assumption," e-mail to unknown recipient.
  4. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1843 #55, Michael August Wiese.
  5. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1844 #161, Wilhelmine Albertine Wiese.
  6. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1848 #34, Johann Friedrich Wiese.
  7. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1850 #41, August Gottlieb Wiese.
  8. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1853 #12, Wilhelm Gottlieb Wiese.
  9. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1855 #143, Emilie Auguste Wiese.
  10. [S118] Bapt 1858-1873; Evang, Tuchel WP, Auguste Caroline Albertine Wiese.

Carl Friedrich Wiese1

M, b. 3 March 1841
Carl Friedrich Wiese|b. 3 Mar 1841|p72.htm#i2154|Peter Wiese|b. c 1816|p72.htm#i2152|Caroline Warmbier|b. 10 Nov 1817|p72.htm#i2153|||||||Andreas Warmbier||p148.htm#i4456|Anna Lange||p149.htm#i4457|
     Vital records include: bapt. Carl Friedrich Wiese was born on 3 March 1841 at Bagnitz, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Peter Wiese and Caroline Warmbier.1 Carl Friedrich Wiese was baptized on 7 March 1841 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1841 #39, Carl Friedrich Wiese.

Carl Gustav Wiese1

M, b. 26 March 1841
Carl Gustav Wiese|b. 26 Mar 1841|p72.htm#i2155|Christian Wiese|b. c 1804\nd. a 4 Aug 1881|p71.htm#i2110|Catharina Dobberstein|b. c 1810\nd. 4 Aug 1881|p71.htm#i2111|Friedrich Wiese|b. c 1779|p78.htm#i2322||||Adam Dobberstein|b. c 1785|p78.htm#i2323||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Carl Gustav Wiese was born on 26 March 1841 at Pilla, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia; cannot locate town on map; could have been Pillamühl.1 He was the son of Christian Wiese and Catharina Dobberstein.1 Carl Gustav Wiese was baptized on 28 March 1841 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1841 #49, Carl Gustav Wiese.

August Ferdinand Wiese1

M, b. 26 August 1841
August Ferdinand Wiese|b. 26 Aug 1841|p72.htm#i2156|Michael Wiese|b. c 1803\nd. b Aug 1872|p37.htm#i1092|Maria Pobanz|b. c 1813\nd. 12 Jul 1880|p36.htm#i1079|||||||Jacob Pobanz|b. c 1786|p78.htm#i2319||||
     Vital records include: bapt. August Ferdinand Wiese was born on 26 August 1841 at Festnitz, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Michael Wiese and Maria Pobanz.1 August Ferdinand Wiese was baptized on 5 September 1841 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1841 #130, August Ferdinand Wiese.

Wilhelmine Friedricke Wiese1

F, b. 22 December 1839
Wilhelmine Friedricke Wiese|b. 22 Dec 1839|p72.htm#i2157|Christian Wiese|b. c 1804\nd. a 4 Aug 1881|p71.htm#i2110|Catharina Dobberstein|b. c 1810\nd. 4 Aug 1881|p71.htm#i2111|Friedrich Wiese|b. c 1779|p78.htm#i2322||||Adam Dobberstein|b. c 1785|p78.htm#i2323||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Wilhelmine Friedricke Wiese was born on 22 December 1839 at Pillamühl, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 She was the daughter of Christian Wiese and Catharina Dobberstein.1 Wilhelmine Friedricke Wiese was baptized on 26 December 1839 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1839 #169, Wilhelmine Friedricke Wiese.

Anna Modelmag1

F, b. 9 January 1841
Anna Modelmag|b. 9 Jan 1841|p72.htm#i2158|George Modelmag|b. c 1807|p70.htm#i2094|Eva Rosine Wiese|b. c 1807|p70.htm#i2093|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Anna Modelmag was born on 9 January 1841 at Stobno, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 She was the daughter of George Modelmag and Eva Rosine Wiese.1 Anna Modelmag was baptized on 17 January 1841 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1841 #6, Anna Modelmag.

Friedrich Wilhelm Wiese1

M, b. 2 March 1846
Friedrich Wilhelm Wiese|b. 2 Mar 1846|p72.htm#i2159|Mathias Wiese|b. c 1818|p68.htm#i2045|Eva Patzer|b. c 1816|p74.htm#i2215|||||||Daniel Patzer|b. c 1791|p78.htm#i2325||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Friedrich Wilhelm Wiese was born on 2 March 1846 at Zwangsbruch, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Mathias Wiese and Eva Patzer.1 Friedrich Wilhelm Wiese was baptized on 8 March 1846 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #54, Friedrich Wilhelm Wiese.

Johann Hintz1

M, b. circa 1819
Johann Hintz|b. c 1819|p72.htm#i2160|Michael Hintz|b. c 1794|p78.htm#i2326||||||||||||||||
     Johann Hintz was born circa 1819.2 He was the son of Michael Hintz.2 Johann Hintz married Rosa Wiese, daughter of Johann Wiese, on 19 October 1845 at Grochowo, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1,2 Johann Hintz was a brickmaker between 1846 and 1848 at Zuckau, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1,3

Children of Johann Hintz and Rosa Wiese

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #181, Heinriette Friderike Hintz.
  2. [S108] Unknown name of person unknown record type, unknown repository, unknown repository address, v2, p78, Johann Hinz (26) & Rosa Wiese (23), 19 Oct 1845.
  3. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1848 #68, Anna Elisabeth Hintz.

Rosa Wiese1

F, b. circa 1822
Rosa Wiese|b. c 1822|p72.htm#i2161|Johann Wiese|b. c 1797|p78.htm#i2327||||||||||||||||
     Her married name was Hintz. Rosa Wiese was also known as Rosalio.3 She was born circa 1822 at Grochowo, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.2 She was the daughter of Johann Wiese.2 Rosa Wiese married Johann Hintz, son of Michael Hintz, on 19 October 1845 at Grochowo, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.3,2

Children of Rosa Wiese and Johann Hintz

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1848 #68, Anna Elisabeth Hintz.
  2. [S108] Unknown name of person unknown record type, unknown repository, unknown repository address, v2, p78, Johann Hinz (26) & Rosa Wiese (23), 19 Oct 1845.
  3. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #181, Heinriette Friderike Hintz.

Heinriette Friderike Hintz1

F, b. 19 October 1846
Heinriette Friderike Hintz|b. 19 Oct 1846|p72.htm#i2162|Johann Hintz|b. c 1819|p72.htm#i2160|Rosa Wiese|b. c 1822|p72.htm#i2161|Michael Hintz|b. c 1794|p78.htm#i2326||||Johann Wiese|b. c 1797|p78.htm#i2327||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Heinriette Friderike Hintz was born on 19 October 1846 at Zuckau, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 She was the daughter of Johann Hintz and Rosa Wiese.1 Heinriette Friderike Hintz was baptized on 1 November 1846 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #181, Heinriette Friderike Hintz.

Daniel Knuth1,2

M, b. circa 1821
     Daniel Knuth was born circa 1821.3 He married Anna Wiese circa 1841.4,3

Children of Daniel Knuth and Anna Wiese

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #196, Caroline Wilhelmine Venuth?.
  2. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1852 #12, Louise Knuth.
  3. [S1] Unknown author, "Assumption," e-mail to unknown recipient.
  4. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP.
  5. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1843 #15, Caroline Wilhelmine Knutu?.

Anna Wiese1

F, b. circa 1821
     Her married name was Knuth. Anna Wiese was born circa 1821.2 She married Daniel Knuth circa 1841.3,2

Children of Anna Wiese and Daniel Knuth

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #181, Heinriette Friderike Hintz.
  2. [S1] Unknown author, "Assumption," e-mail to unknown recipient.
  3. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP.
  4. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1843 #15, Caroline Wilhelmine Knutu?.
  5. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #196, Caroline Wilhelmine Venuth?.
  6. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1852 #12, Louise Knuth.

Caroline Wilhelmine Knuth1

F, b. 28 October 1846
Caroline Wilhelmine Knuth|b. 28 Oct 1846|p72.htm#i2165|Daniel Knuth|b. c 1821|p72.htm#i2163|Anna Wiese|b. c 1821|p72.htm#i2164|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Caroline Wilhelmine Knuth was born on 28 October 1846 at Kamnitz, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 She was the daughter of Daniel Knuth and Anna Wiese.1 Caroline Wilhelmine Knuth was baptized on 15 November 1846 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #196, Caroline Wilhelmine Venuth?.

Johann Christian? Wiese1

M, b. 20 December 1846
Johann Christian? Wiese|b. 20 Dec 1846|p72.htm#i2166|Friedrich Wiese|b. c 1815|p69.htm#i2062|Elisabeth Schaffler?|b. c 1815|p69.htm#i2063|||||||||||||
     Vital records include: bapt. Johann Christian? Wiese was born on 20 December 1846 at Kelpin, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1 He was the son of Friedrich Wiese and Elisabeth Schaffler?.1 Johann Christian? Wiese was baptized on 22 December 1846 at the Evangelical Church, Tuchel, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia.1

Citations

  1. [S79] Bapt 1830-1857; Evang, Tuchel WP, 1846 #219, Johann Christian? Wiese.